Jennifer Williams was working in the office one day when she came across a comment made on Social Catfish’s Instagram page. It was made from a scammer, and Williams wanted to learn more about why he was scamming people. She sent him a direct message, and he confessed that he used to be a scammer and had a scammer’s playbook.
He also stated that he was a “gold digger” and that any information he was willing to give her for an interview would be “comprehensive and elaborate”. He wanted to help a woman that he claimed to be in love with. He also said that Americans were being scammed every day and that there were some things he wanted to clear up for us.
During the Interview With the Scammer
Scammer: Ok you have to listen closely, first of all the people that do this they are very young, like me.
Williams: How young are you?
Scammer: Umm… let’s see. I don’t know I think I lost count. (This guy had to be around 18-20 years old) Since I was 18, I’ve been scamming. It was easy at that time. I used to get replies from 100 women.
Williams: From Instagram, and where else?
Williams: So you were born in Nigeria? What part?
Scammer: I was born in Nigeria and I wasn’t brought up poor. I went to a very good school. My parents were not wealthy, but let’s say, middle class. They were very good parents, not bad like me. So they did all their best and everything. At some point my mom felt sick and I had to fend for myself. She was sick, do you get it?
Williams: Yeah so, when she got sick you ended up pretty much having to do what you could to survive. Is that what got you into this type of business?
Scammer: I just wanted to be comfortable. I want to go to school. At some point my IQ… when you grow up out here, your brain becomes… there’s no government for you, ok? You must know that. The government is zero.
Williams: So it’s pretty much you do whatever you have to do to have money to survive?
Scammer: Most parents are actually proud that their children are doing scams. Someone actually contacted me and told me to talk to Lisa. (Lisa is the woman that the scammer claims he’s in love with. To read this article, click here.)
She’s a good lady. We just had plans, we talked about a lot of things. I just have played on her emotions, I played with her psychology. I call her every minute every time. She tells me anything, there is nothing she can’t tell me. The friend who gave her to me was like “Okay, just get something from her.”
Williams: What can you do with a hundred dollars there?
Scammer: Buy Gucci s***
Williams: What would you do with three-hundred dollars?
Scammer: I would just take care of my family that’s all. I do jobs for other people, I take calls for other people. We actually call them clients. I don’t talk to men, I hate talking to men. Men are perverts.
Williams: So you call people that you scam clients? How many clients do you have right now?
Scammer: Well right now umm… I have one client and Lisa. She’s actually not very rich but she’s ENOUGH.
Williams: So does she send you money quite often?
Scammer: Oh my gosh, she gave me her SSN. She gave me everything I actually need. Is there anything you wouldn’t give to someone you love so much? Trust me, it’s beautiful.
After Talking to the Scammer, He Revealed to Us the Scammer’s Playbook.
Williams: I have a question, do you have a book scammers use to talk to people? Do you have a copy of that?
Scammer: I will send the scammer’s playbook to your website. A lot of places actually have playbooks. Pre-written text like, “Hi babe, how are you doing? My name is blah blah blah.” And you just drop it there (in the messages) and it is a very long text.
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